I'm the outsider in a group of outsiders.

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BizarrePeachFireMouseInBeaufaysWithFear
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Friday, 09 May 2025
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(friend list follows: Katy, Amy, Barley, Harley, Ella, Will, JJ, Tasha, Mindy)

So more friendgroup stuff.

I sit at a table with Amy, JJ, Mindy, Will, Katy, and one of Mindy's friends. Tasha, Harley, and Barley all sit at their own table. I'm still technically friends with Barley, we still talk and vibe yk, but I don't talk to Tasha and Harley as much as I used to. Tasha, Amy, and Mindy are all dating eachother.

In the mornings, we have morning holding. Everyone who doesn't go to breakfast goes to the gym and we sit with our grade levels and socialize until we go to class. When I get to the gym, usually Barley's there already. (Amy, Tasha, JJ, and Mindy all go to breakfast.) Ella arrives later as does Harley. Katy enters the gym at the same time I do.

If Barley's already there, we talk yk, we vibe just like normal. But then, when Harley arrives, and I've become used to this, I become invisible. If I was sitting next to Barley, I move up and sit next to Katy, or sometimes Ella if Katy's not there that day, or I just move and sit alone if neither of them are there. Even though I'm used to disappearing, it still feels not too good.

At lunch, you know the seating arrangement. The seats aren't the same two weeks in a row usually. But Amy always, and I mean ALWAYS sits between JJ and Mindy. I sit next to Katy. Will's new-ish (he was homeschooled, then came back to actual school), so he doesn't really have a set place. I vibe with JJ, Amy, Katy, and Will. I don't talk to Mindy's friend. And I feel like Mindy hates my guts for whatever reason. She doesn't even ever glance my way during lunch, not once the whole lunch period.

JJ and Amy are OBSESSED with Genshin Impact. Once they start talking about it, everyone around it is gone in a puff of smoke. And by everyone, usually just me. They still talk with Will and Mindy, just about Genshin. Me and Katy, who don't play Genshin, are left on the outside. Yeah, we all have common interests, like K-pop and Alien Stage, but Genshin tends to take over sometimes.

Ella's pretty chill. We vibe. We have our inside jokes. "CaN i PeT tHaT dAaAwWwG??" "diD You WaSH yO AsS ToDAY??" but she sits at her lunch table with her friend group.

Harley sometimes will turn and talk to Amy. Then they'll turn back to her own table and start talking to Tasha and Barley again. (they use she/they pronouns so I'm tryna use a mix of them lol). Tasha and I don't talk. Not much, anyway.

Me, Barley, and Tasha are all in band together, but Barley's not continuing next year and Tasha is changing schools.

Sometimes, Amy and JJ forget that I exist at all. I wait for them at class change so we can walk together, but still they sometimes don't talk to me. And they usually never wait for me when I get out of class after they do. Amy waits for Mindy and that's all.

More on Mindy: I HAVE NO IDEA WHY SHE HATES ME. No idea! At all. She doesn't look at me, doesn't talk to me, doesn't associate with me.

I'm just getting very sick of my friend group. I'm done with being invisible, done with Mindy hating me for no reason, done with the people who stop talking to me when one specific friend is around. I'm done. And idk what to do because I don't want to ditch them all and be alone, because we're literally a friend group of the outcasts of our grade. But what do you do when you're an outsider in a group of outsiders?

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MirthfulBlueIcePenInBudapestWithDisappointment 8h ago

that's kinda like me lwk but even when your in a group of outsiders your always still on the sides or on your own. I've dealt with it for awhile so I got use to it and my mom says sometimes you got to just throw urself out there. and the group I'm in rn they don't need me, I've always sat with them and sometimes they talk to me and I'll talk.often I'm left in my own thoughts just listening. its hard and it hurts, its better to just ride it out or find someone else to hang with, step to a different crowd, sometimes being with a certain group for so long can get oldish and die out where u start to fade into the background. I'm sorry this is happening to u and I hope it gets better (u always got meh too :> )

ShiningIndigoFireConditionerInBeauvechainWithAnticipation 4h ago

ugh, i totally get where you're coming from 😞 it sounds super frustrating to feel like an outsider in your own friend group. it's like you're trying to find your place and they keep pushing you to the edges, especially when the conversation turns to something like Genshin Impact or when Barley's more interested in Harley's presence than yours. it's tough when communication seems to break down, y’know? and mindy being cold for no apparent reason does sound confusing; it's like there's this unspoken tension but no way to address it. you've got a whole vibe with some but feel disconnected with others. navigating social circles can be such a mind-bender, especially when people you thought you were close with seem to forget about you. i hope things get better for you. maybe trying to talk to some of them might help, or finding new circles where you don’t feel so invisible…