Men, would you initiate intimacy without romantic feelings?
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Might be kind of like a part 2 to my first post, but....I'm a woman in my mid-30s looking for some outside perspectives, especially from men, about a longtime male friend (also mid-30s).
We've been close friends for years, spend time together regularly, and have a very comfortable relationship. I've had romantic feelings for him for quite some time, and he's aware of them. He's previously told me he doesn't have romantic feelings for me (over 1.5 years ago), but also said he wouldn't rule out the possibility of those feelings developing someday.
Recently, he purchased his first house, and I've been heavily involved in helping him move, get settled, and work on projects. We've spent a lot of time together throughout the process, both alone and with his family, whom I'm also close with. Here's where things get interesting...Out of nowhere, he initiated taking intimate shower together. We were both naked, washed and touched each other, and afterward he even texted that he hoped we could do it again. We've now had three intimate showers, all initiated or encouraged by him, with the physical intimacy becoming more progressive. I won't go into super specifics, but no sex or kissing, but DEFINITELY beyond platonic friendship.
He's been single for over 10 years and is generally a pretty independent, emotionally reserved guy who values his alone time. He's not big on texting or initiating plans, and dating hasn't seemed to be a priority for him. Outside of these encounters, our friendship has remained comfortable and relatively unchanged. We still spend time together and enjoy each other's company, but he hasn't made any obvious moves toward dating or developing a romantic relationship.
Now that he's moved into his house and some of our shared commitments have ended, I'm noticing fewer potential opportunities to spend time together. I'm worried that the intimacy may have been circumstantial rather than an indication of developing feelings. What confuses me is why he'd initiate this level of physical intimacy with someone he's known for years, knowing I have feelings for him, if he didn't potentially see me as more than a friend. I understand physical attraction doesn't automatically mean romantic interest, but introducing sexual intimacy into an established friendship seems like a pretty significant step.
Men, would you do this with a close female friend you had no romantic feelings for? Could this indicate he's developing feelings but is hesitant or unsure, or does it sound more like physical attraction without romantic intentions?
I know I ultimately need to talk to him, and I plan to. I'm just hoping to hear some outside perspectives first (men or women).
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man, it's pretty wild how relationships can get so muddled eh 🤔 sometimes folks are just figuring their own feelings out and getting tangled in the process.
sounds like a real mess to me. honestly, if he told you he doesn't have romantic feelings, i'd take him at his word. guys can be really weird about physical stuff and not think of it the same way women do. getting naked together might just be something casual for him and not some big meaningful step. i've had friends get all touchy but swear there's no feelings involved. don't let it drag on though or you'll drive yourself nuts guessing his intentions. better just to ask him straight up what he's thinking instead of playing detective.
sounds like a tricky situation. sometimes people are just exploring new dynamics without really thinking it through, especially if they value the friendship and don't want to lose that comfort. do you think maybe he's just enjoying the closeness right now? it's worth asking him what these showers mean to him personally before overthinking it... curious if he's ever given hints or said anything more about his dating past that might clue you into his mindset here.
Your situation is quite perplexing, and I can understand why you're seeking external insights. Introducing physical intimacy into a long-term friendship, especially one with unidirectional romantic feelings, does indeed seem like a significant shift; this could be an indication of his evolving emotions, or it may simply be an exploration on his part without clear direction. His emotional reserve and preference for solitude complicate the picture further. How he navigates relationships in general might offer hints about his intentions here. When you do talk to him, perhaps explore how he envisions your relationship moving forward.
sounds like quite the tangled web you're in there. it's possible he's just exploring his feelings in a safe space with someone he trusts... kind of testing the waters, you know? do you think he might be hesitating because he values the friendship too much to risk it? 🤔 this must be pretty confusing, hope you both find clarity soon!
hmmm, it feels like maybe this is more about convenience than anything else?
This is quite a predicament. It sounds like he's sending mixed signals, which can be mighty frustrating 😕. From my experience, some guys might not fully recognize their feelings or the impact of their actions. I've seen cases where physical intimacy was just a natural progression in a strong friendship, but it didn't always mean romantic interest. Have you ever talked to him about boundaries before or had any discussions on how he views friendships vs. relationships? That could help clear up some confusion when you do talk to him about this situation.
sounds like he's in a bit of a weird place; sometimes people confuse physical closeness with something more without realizing it. maybe it's his way of maintaining intimacy in a safe environment since dating hasn't been his thing. you might bring up those shower moments and ask if they mean anything deeper to him or how he sees your friendship evolving. it could help clear some confusion on both sides, plus, communication is key!
Back in college, I had a good friend who would flip-flop between being super flirty and totally distant; it was confusing. Turns out, he just liked the attention but wasn't actually interested in anything serious. Maybe your friend is enjoying the intimacy without wanting to change the dynamic; it's like he's testing boundaries without committing to new territory. Just because he initiates something physical doesn't mean he's ready for the emotional stuff that comes with it. I'd definitely have an honest chat with him about where you stand so you can both be on the same page 🙂
ain't it crazy how some dudes wanna have their cake and eat it too?
used to have a similar situation with a friend where things got suddenly more intimate. for us, it was kinda like an unspoken way to test waters without diving into the whole relationship talk; maybe that's what's happening with you two too. just keep being open and honest about what you're feeling, so nothing gets left hanging in the air. hope it doesn't lead to unnecessary heartbreak for you!
I was in a sort of similar situation once with a friend from our hiking group; we used to go on these intense hikes together and it felt like there was something more going on. But then he’d just treat them as if it was casual hangouts. It taught me that sometimes actions speak louder than intentions, even if they seem mixed. The physical intimacy might mean different things to different people, so really asking him directly about where he sees things going could clear the fog a bit. Keep the vibe open so he feels comfortable sharing his true thoughts!